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The stuff at the bottom about "do or die" is largely false. In fact, the PhD program would often grant masters degrees to PhD students who had reached ABD status, sometimes in the interests of allowing them to get higher salaries at summer jobs. I recieved such a masters degree about half way through my study there. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.173.250.82 (talk o contribs).

Was that during the 80s? It's certainly the case now that they give masters degrees for finishing most of the PhD requirements, but I had heard that this practice is somewhat new. -- brighterorange (talk) 16:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the above comment: the CS department was not "do or die" when I was there (from 1974-1978). I got my Ph.D. in 1978, but was given a Masters in 1976 because I had progressed far enough in the program by then. Unless someone can show that the policy changed in the 1980s, I have to say that the section should be removed or severely edited. strubin (talk) 17:47, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm taking off that silly "citation needed" in the introduction - whoever put that there, please learn to use google AND wikipedia. CMU has a lot of research in those areas, if you really want to cite something, just go to each of the research centers and paste the links here. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Rawringtiger (talk o contribs) 02:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

These need to be provided before the citation needed template is removed. We need to provided references in the article, not direct readers to search google to verify them. Also, please see wikipedia's policy on assuming good faith. Thanks 13:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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"It ranks as one of the best Computer Science programs in the world." seems POV to me. If such a claim is to be made, then there should be citations to actual rankings. Other similar claims seem to be made without citation as well. --Shimei 03:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Added link to U.S. News and World Report --Jrc 23:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Let me guess, you must be from MIT? Well, four programs are tied for #1 for CS.

Either way it looks like "one of the top computer science programs" is fair so, I've removed the NPOV tag Nloth 06:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

There's other stuff that's flowery and should be fixed/made more declarative --Matt 03:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Please point these out - it looks pretty much okay to me. Nloth 06:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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Merge?

Should the articles on the organizational units of the Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science be merged into that same parent article? Viriditas (talk) 07:24, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hello. Upon reviewing a GA nomination for the Human-Computer Interaction Institute, I came across the following related articles:

Robotics Institute
Institute for Software Research International
Language Technologies Institute
Entertainment Technology Center

After looking closely at these articles, I'm not seeing a need for them apart from one paragraph summaries in this main article. The longest of these articles, Carnegie Mellon Human Computer Interaction Institute, is mostly promotional, duplicates some content from this article, and is sourced to primary sources. The rest are perma-stubs. Viriditas (talk) 06:51, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment I see no objection to merging them and if they are not merged, they really need some NPOV editing as they stand. In fact they still would need it if they were merged, preferably by someone not connected with any of those institutions. JonRichfield (talk) 08:39, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment I agree, it would be better to merge them. They definitely need to have some NPOV editing.JSR (talk) 10:41, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Partial Support/Comment I definitely agree with merging the four stub articles. I'm not sure on the Human-Computer Interaction Institute; it might be possible to repair that one with some secondary sources (it does have one such already). Allens (talk | contribs) 19:34, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Neutral/Comment I am pretty neutral about it.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 15:37, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Source or merge Carnegie Mellon Institute for Software Research International, Language Technologies Institute, and Entertainment Technology Center. They currently have no reliable sources attesting to their independent notability and without them appear to fail WP:ORG and WP:GNG. Neutral on Carnegie Mellon Human Computer Interaction Institute and Robotics Institute because their sourcing, while still not great, is better than the other three. --David Eppstein (talk) 18:06, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Merge HCII reads much like a promotional brochure and has only a few 3rd-party reference (i.e., violating WP:SELFPUB #5, "the article is not based primarily on such sources"), the others are nearly devoid of references (especially 3rd-party references). With some (NPOV) editing, I think these articles should become sections within Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science. Justin W Smith ^talk/_stalk 19:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Merge You're quite right, seems like a logical proposal to me. Jesse V. (talk) 17:48, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Merge and remove the promotional material to comply with NPOV. -- ChalkboardCowboy^[T] 13:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Merge. RI has glimmer of notability with DARPA Grand Challenge and decent book source, but is still weak. Sources for LTI are generally CMU and not independent; I don't see notability in its own right. Others are too threadbare. Glrx (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Oppose - With respect to the Robotics Institute. RI is at least as notable as the SCS as a whole. Probably more so. Agree that RI article is sparse - need improvement not merging. Sbs9 (talk) 16:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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